What Will AMD Do?
If AMD wants to compete in this market they're going to have to join a new price range offering performance at equal to Turing and the RTX 2080 Ti for let's say, $1000. I really can't see this happening as it would mean Navi is scaling from consoles (PS5) through to beyond Vega and into Turing territory. I can't see this happening either, so it could be Vega 20 on 7nm with GDDR6. Until now, Vega was meant to be locked to HBM2 technology - but if Vega 20 was made on 7nm and used GDDR6... we might see Turing level performance.
At that stage, the 7nm production and use of Vega 20 and HBM2 in games comes into play - is Navi the mid-range (1080p 60FPS and 4K 30FPS) while the new Vega 20 with GDDR6 could offer 4K 60FPS and above. No one knows at this point, but I expect an update from the RTG team after the launch of the GeForce RTX cards. I'm hoping it's something, and the tease can't be something they can't deliver - AMD need to either completely leave this new market to NVIDIA to dominate (admitting defeat of the high-end PC graphics card industry) or enter it, and compete or beat NVIDIA.
Vega sucked. We all know it did. AMD - you'll read this, and I want you to know it. You tried, and it failed. Vega can be great, and Vega 20 on 7nm will actually be exciting alongside the current domination with Ryzen/Threadripper, AMD is doing really well. Radeon on the other hand, I'm sorry - but as an enthusiast of over 20 years, Radeon is dead right now. RX Vega 64 doesn't impress me technologically, or in performance. But that doesn't mean Radeon is finished, there is a glimmer of hope from Vega 20 and Navi in 2019.
Final Thoughts 3.0
I didn't think I'd get to 24 pages and over 10,000 words but here we are. NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is a game changer in more ways than one, and deserves all of the attention it will get. It's bloody expensive, freaking fast, and bursting with so many new features you can't even use them all yet.
The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is the first graphics card I've ever tested that I've had to go back and re-benchmark a few 3DMark runs and games, because the results seemed off... the RTX 2080 Ti was so much better than the TITAN Xp and even the RTX 2080 that I had to spend hours re-benchmarking to be 100% sure. Once that benchmarking was complete, the numbers lined up and it was just that fast. I've never tested a card that stomps on all the previous cards so much you need to double check the data because it seemed like too far of a jump.
2560x1440, 3440x1440, and 4K monitor owners all have a new card that guarantees the very best performance possible: NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. Unrivaled performance, a completely relentlessly awesome graphics card that is so good it has raised the bar that high it has set a new standard in not just performance, but price.
At $1199 the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is the most expensive graphics card on the market, bar the TITAN V - which I don't take into consideration in this review. Gamers will only buy the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and TITAN Xp, both of which get decimated by the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti in every single test. People were happy buying the TITAN Xp for $1199 and getting more performance than the GTX 1080 Ti. Well, that same money gets you a massive performance over the TITAN Xp, which is insane when you think about it.
NVIDIA can't leave the TITAN brand out there without a Turing GPU inside, which is where I want to see a TITAN RTX released with 12-16GB of GDDR6 and some serious upgrades in performance. We could have the world's first 4K 120FPS graphics card with a purported TITAN RTX as we're so very close as it is with the GeForce RTX 1080 Ti. A purported TITAN RTX could be anywhere between $1499-$1999 if it were to be made a reality, and I don't see why NVIDIA wouldn't do it.
The new TITAN RTX could be an ace up NVIDIA's sleeve for when they launch their Big Format Gaming Displays in 2019. Think about it: BFGDs come in at a huge 65-inch with a super-fast 144Hz refresh rate, as well as HDR and G-Sync technologies. You can't just plug any 'ol graphics card into it and start cranking through the latest games (and in 2019 no less) on a GTX 760.
You're going to need some out-of-this-world graphics card like a purported TITAN RTX that can drive 4K 120FPS in a bunch of games, while dropping details down a little bit on a card as fast as that would ensure most games would run 4K 120FPS on a BFGD. 2019 is going to be a helluva year, that's for sure.
All-in-all, NVIDIA has redefined the enthusiast level of graphics cards with the new Turing-based GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. Even at its swollen $1199, it is amazing value for money considering just a few weeks ago people were buying the TITAN Xp for the same price and were, like me, happy with its performance lead over the GTX 1080 Ti. But now the $1199 spot is dominated by the RTX 2080 Ti, and its worthy of its position.
How long the GeForce GTX 10 series stays on shelves will be the question, or will they fill out the RTX series with more cards next year and have the new minimums of the RTX 1060 start higher at $399+ or so. There are some gamers who don't want to pay the additional costs of AI and RTX technologies on a card, they might want to play other games that don't use these technologies. Why should they be forced into spending more on the card?
But on the flip side, NVIDIA could pump many older and eSports level games through its DNN and give us DLSS support so the games run far better on RTX series cards, and look better than our games now without AA enabled, or with 4x AA. This is where things can get really interesting for NVIDIA, but I do wonder about the GTX 10 series longevity on the market post-RTX launch.
The new king is here everyone, welcome the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. How long will this be the #1 card? 6 months? A year? 18 months? Longer? At this rate, NVIDIA is the only one that could succeed it, unless Skynet does it first.
Last updated: Nov 15, 2019 at 01:16 pm CST
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The Bottom Line: NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 2080 Ti breaks all previous performance records, and lays the foundation for the future of PC gaming. 4K 60FPS and above is a reality for the first time ever. Where you at, Radeon?!
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- Page 1 [Introduction & Pricing/Availability]
- Page 2 [Specs: Turing GPUs]
- Page 3 [Specs: GDDR6 Memory]
- Page 4 [New Look, New Cooler, New GeForce]
- Page 5 [Detailed Look]
- Page 6 [Turing: NVLink Multi-GPU Tech]
- Page 7 [Turing: RT Cores & Tensor Cores]
- Page 8 [DLSS: Deep Learning Magic & NGX]
- Page 9 [AI To Power The Future Of Gaming]
- Page 10 [WTF IS RTX-OPS]
- Page 11 [GPU Boost 4.0 & NVIDIA Scanner]
- Page 12 [Test System Specs]
- Page 13 [Benchmarks - Synthetic]
- Page 14 [Benchmarks - 1080p]
- Page 15 [Benchmarks - 1440p]
- Page 16 [Benchmarks - 3440x1440]
- Page 17 [Benchmarks - 4K]
- Page 18 [Benchmarks - 8K]
- Page 19 [Overclocking]
- Page 20 [Heat, Power, Noise]
- Page 21 [Unrivaled Performance]
- Page 22 [More Coming Soon & Final Thoughts 1.0]
- Page 23 [Should You Buy It? & Final Thoughts 2.0]
- Page 24 [What Will AMD Do & Final Thoughts 3.0]